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Something new is coming from @mike!

The creator of Friendica, Hubzilla, and Zot is creating a Fediverse Identity Manager. It is 70% complete.

I don’t know what this will be like exactly. But because @mike is the fellow who’s also brought nomadic identity to the Fediverse, I suspect this will be a big deal.

https://macgirvin.com/channel/mike?mid=https://macgirvin.com/item/d6482bf2-6dbe-4909-a174-e0ad2f43f09c

@fediversenews

in reply to Chris Trottier

@Chris Trottier @mike That would be amazing if he can make identity nomadism for all the fediverse!

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in reply to Chris Trottier

I have a really strong suspicion that @mike’s work with identity is going to become more important on the Fediverse.

More and more people realize Fediverse identity is important to push forward.

Now I don’t know the full details about his Fediverse Identity Manager. But I can’t wait to find out!

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in reply to Chris Trottier

@Chris Trottier @mike Me too, I found hubzilla to be a bit too complicated for the casual user but the concept is great. And this is from some who love loves Friendica.
in reply to Chris Trottier

Care to speculate just a little to give me a hint on the possible implications/use cases?
in reply to Grassroots Joe

@joeinwynnewood I may be wrong, but I hope it’s a tool that allows you to store your various Fediverse identities in one spot, and allow you to move from one server to another with ease.

Even better if it has a validator component that supplies green checks!

in reply to Chris Trottier

@joeinwynnewood so far zot & nomad (from what little I've heard) seem to be Data replication protocols that somehow do identity — I'm wondering why we don't reach for WebIDs or did:web?
in reply to Chris Trottier

Suspicion confirmed!

@mike says the Fediverse Identity manager will be able to link your various Fediverse identities together!

Which means your Mastodon account will be linked to your Pixelfed account which will be linked to your Akkoma account!

This is going to be awesome!

https://macgirvin.com/item/11b8fe73-9a30-43b1-9c40-5dab492bf50c

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in reply to Chris Trottier

Whoaaaaa that's amazing!!! :blobcatscream: One of the things I've been annoyed with is the lack of ability to do exactly that for example between my Mastodon and my Bookwyrm. I'd also love this to make it easier to experiment with different fediverse applications.
@mike
in reply to Chris Trottier

Three things @mike's Fediverse Identity Manager will have:

1. External identity manager: Helps you create and manage verified links.

2. Channel Manager: Will allow you to store your Fediverse identities and then "teleport" with them when needed

3. Channel Sources: Lets you re-publish any posts that arrive from certain connections. Anybody with a rel="me" relationship will automatically become potential channel sources

https://macgirvin.com/item/15d2a045-afb4-43cb-88c9-5510cb1faa8d

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in reply to Chris Trottier

Okay, so what might @mike's post practically mean?

The Fediverse Identity Manager may provide you an easy way to validate your various Fediverse identities. John Smith on Pixelfed and John Smith on Mastodon are all the same person because they're provided with green checks.

It may also help you log into various servers more easily *through* the Fediverse Identity Manager.

Finally, if you want to send the same message to more than one validated account, you can do it in one place!

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in reply to Chris Trottier

I really hope that @mike's Fediverse Identity Manager goes mainstream.

If it gets broad adoption on the Fediverse, it would be huge!

in reply to Chris Trottier

Would it be web only?

(If it has an API that others can implement and get that functionally I count as not web only, even though it’s up to each client app to implement it.)

in reply to Chris Trottier

About “Helping to log in through …” but its not a federated identity in the “saml” sense I think?

Like @SLURF did for their instance based on their OpenConext implementation (SurfConext) to provide access to all dutch vocational / higher education institutions?

In this case meaning one Fediverse instance providing authentication for others?

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in reply to Joël de Bruijn

We use OpenWebAuth for single sign-on. If you've got it, great. It should just work. If not and you don't have a persistent cookie, you'll have to log in. You can use OAuth2 or SAML if if you want -- assuming anybody feels motivated enough to make it happen.

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in reply to Chris Trottier

in reply to Wendell Bell

@Wendell Bell Not quite.

A Russian troll could create a Hubzilla channel, go nomadic on every last public Hubzilla instance and still be fairly easy to moderate. Even with so many clones. the channel would still have only one identity which is derived from the main instance where the channel resides. You block one, you block them all.

Of course, the Russian troll could switch main instances. But that'd mean re-connecting every last non-Hubzilla, non-(streams) connection because they all don't understand nomadic identity.

Unfortunately, there currently isn't a proper way to alert as many hub admins as possible at once so they can delete the channel from their hubs. Hubzilla has public groups/forums, even not-so-public ones, but you can't even count on all hub admins following the Hubzilla Support Forum. And many hubs don't even make clear who is the admin, much less give a link to the admin's channel.

in reply to Chris Trottier

*Massive* game changer. I wish I could use the same identity instead of linking. But a step in the right direction. I’d love to try new apps, but I do not want to start from scratch with 0 follows and 0 followers.

(Also I’m more patient than what the typical micro-blogger seems to be. In fact I want things to move a bit slower. Measure twice type of a vibe.)

in reply to Chris Trottier

This is very interesting: Federated Single Sign-on, https://codeberg.org/streams/streams/src/branch/dev/FEATURES.md

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in reply to Chris ⚛️

This is a problem that's being addressed by a Fediverse Identity Manager.
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in reply to Chris Trottier

Let’s meet at a wal-mart in eastern iowa and use those exact words around town.

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in reply to Chris Trottier

Given the last 20% of a project typically eats 80% of the effort, I'm wondering how much effort & time the last 30% will take?😉

JK, this sounds awesome, & he seems like the right person to be doing it. Very exciting!

@mike @fediversenews

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Mitex Leo
@Retr0mantic Fediverse version of Gravatar won't be hard to build, I think 🤔
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Harald Eilertsen
@Retr0mantic @Chris Trottier @mike Why would you want that, when you can fetch the avatar directly from the channel/account instead?
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Harald Eilertsen
@Retr0mantic Ok, that makes sense.