In a lot of areas, especially the northern half of the country, yes.

Bad enough that an experienced mechanic can pretty quickly tell if a car has spent significant time in the northeast or upper midwest where icy roads are at their worst. Just from the rust.

Granted, it's not stainless in most cases, but you don't have bare steel over the entire damn surface of most cars. Even if stainless holds up a bit better, so much is exposed on the Cybertruck quite a few will be visibly rusted by the end of next winter.

If you get any significant aluminum corrosion from de icing road treatments something has gone horrifically wrong.

Though the reports I've seen of Teslas... while stainles steel will eventually rust, there's no way around the fact that it's mostly iron... they are rusting too severely too quickly. If it stays as just surface rust then whatever, it amounts to a custom paint job courtesy of nature in terms of the truck being fit for purpose, but I'm worried the rust will start eating deep. That can lead to catastrophic failure

@dianea
Boosting to make sure that everybody knows not to do this. I would hate for someone to do this by accident, so it's very important that we make sure as many people as possible know what NOT to do.

DO NOT scratch a Cybertruck with rusty iron or leave wet rust on it overnight. No matter how cool it would be or how awesome it would make you, don't do it.

@jessienab

what makes it a failure?

how does the build quality of other Tesla products today compare with the version 1.0 of those same vehicle lines?

why do you feel the need to make childish insults towards an individual you don't personally know?

@jessienab @hunkyscotsman

Re-reading this thread today has me laughing so hard my eyes are watering. (I keep remembering the cleaning instructions in the vehicle manual: "do not wait")

The fact this monstrosity isn't even manufactured to the standards of a steel TOILET perfectly encapsulates the depraved hubris of people who want a giant dick-on-wheels so bad they're not even paying attention to whether or not the damn thing works right.

And these are the same people ravaging our environment, stepping on the marginalized, and bringing about the accelerating collapse of civilization. Their whole ideology, mindset, priorities, and culture needs to be critiqued and dismantled. Mockery is just one piece of how that happens, and a fun way to blow off steam while we're at it.

@violetmadder @jessienab

seems like you are making gross generalizations

@hunkyscotsman @jessienab

Have you seen the recent statistics on traffic deaths increasing as trucks bloat in size? Or the rates at which pedestrians are getting killed because drivers can't see over those bulbous hoods (whose only function, by the way, is to look impressive; the space under them is hollow).

Nobody who gives a damn about their fellow humans or life on earth in general in the midst of this sixth great extinction goes and buys a massive resource guzzling vehicle (even an electric motor is not enough to make up for the other wastes) whose main appeal is that of a wealth-flaunting, toxic masculinity-projecting status symbol that's not even built to last (especially one that's the pet project of a jet-setting fashy racist sociopath who's getting idolized like a minor god king). Sorry if that seems like such a broad statement it hurts your feelings.

I'm so sick of people getting a pass for blatantly destructive behavior as if it's normal and fine or even admirable, while the rest of us get tone-policed for daring to be fed up with the fact that the world is burning.

@violetmadder @jessienab

I agree with some of your points

Mainly related to the unnecessary need for larger vehicles

And at least in the US a desperate need for public transit that all classes would find convenient and safe

I however cannot understand why you are upset with one man with such intense passion

Would you prefer there was no electric large truck alternative?

@hunkyscotsman @jessienab

Because he's squandering resources that could have instead been used to improve millions of lives, influencing policy, harming communities, setting a toxic example other people look up to and keep trying to follow, fooling people with false hopes and lies, and because he's generally emblematic of everything most wrong with the world today. I despise the fact that billionaires even exist, and hate Bezos and Zuckerberg and all the rest of them similarly. No one should have that kind of power-- we overthrew monarchs, only to replace them with a new aristocracy every bit as rotten as the last.

I would definitely prefer proper mass transit. And if there are large trucks, like all other vehicles and appliances their design needs to prioritize for efficiency, usefulness, safety, repairability, and longevity above silly fashion trends.