This should be a viral national story in #US. After this team unanimously unionized, Google refused to come to the bargaining table.
A resolution supporting the workers was brought to the city council. The day the workers showed up to testify on the resolution, Google laid off the entire team.
This was the precise instant when YouTube Music employees became aware that we had lost our jobs, as we were addressing the City Council.
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yianiris
in reply to Yogthos • • •But still dumb&^%( s will argue how progressive of a workplace it is and why they refuse to place google gstatic tube blogsport in their firewall
Slap in your face people!
@yogthos
plank
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in reply to anubis2814 • • •Dave Mc
in reply to Yogthos • • •Yogthos
in reply to Dave Mc • • •@guigsy not sure actually, I never got into using streaming services myself, I just like having music files.
What I ended up doing was to dump music on my own nextcloud, and use it as my private streaming service.
Obviously not a solution for everyone though.
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Charles U. Farley
in reply to Yogthos • • •Shufei 👩🏽🌾
in reply to Charles U. Farley • • •@freakazoid @guigsy Googlebet hates it when anyone mentions and uses #invidious. But there’s not a thing they can really do about it, haha.
https://invidious.io/
Invidious
InvidiousCharles U. Farley
in reply to Shufei 👩🏽🌾 • • •Dave Mc
in reply to Charles U. Farley • • •Charles U. Farley
in reply to Dave Mc • • •Doc Edward Morbius ⭕
in reply to Shufei 👩🏽🌾 • • •@Shufei I'm afan of Invidious myself. Unfortunately I'm noticing it failing increasingly on video requests over the past week or so. Not sure if that's a temporary degradation or ominous foreshadowing.
Piped has been more reliable in the past, but even it seems to be struggling. Given the recent death of Birdsite alternative Nitter ... I have my concerns.
@freakazoid @yogthos @guigsy
Shufei 👩🏽🌾
in reply to Doc Edward Morbius ⭕ • • •Charles U. Farley
in reply to Shufei 👩🏽🌾 • • •Doc Edward Morbius ⭕
in reply to Shufei 👩🏽🌾 • • •@Shufei I'm aware. Seems to be getting more effective, aggressive, frequent, and persistent, however. And as noted, other services with alt interfaces (Instagram, Birdsite) have killed those off.
@freakazoid @yogthos @guigsy
Doc Edward Morbius ⭕
in reply to Doc Edward Morbius ⭕ • • •@Shufei Thought occurs: it's cat-and-mouse / whackamole, but also, the thought occurs: a ratchet.
Things seem to keep breaking harder.
@freakazoid @yogthos @guigsy
Charles U. Farley
in reply to Doc Edward Morbius ⭕ • • •Shufei 👩🏽🌾
in reply to Charles U. Farley • • •Charles U. Farley
in reply to Shufei 👩🏽🌾 • • •@Shufei That may well be what keeps them from cracking down too hard. If so, I'm impressed with their perceptiveness.
@dredmorbius @yogthos @guigsy
Doc Edward Morbius ⭕
in reply to Shufei 👩🏽🌾 • • •@Shufei Agreed.
The alternative to ad-skipping, privacy, and search-driven discovery isn't an ad-ridden, surveillance-oriented, garbage recommendations platform. It's skipping that channel entirely.
The unavoidable ads and crap content on broadcast/cable TV and terrestrial radio don't have me sucking it up and experiencing the ads. I simply don't engage.
So it will be with YouTube.
@freakazoid @yogthos @guigsy
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Doc Edward Morbius ⭕
in reply to Sashin • • •@sashin Excellent question, thoughts forthcoming.
@Shufei @freakazoid @yogthos @guigsy
Doc Edward Morbius ⭕
in reply to Doc Edward Morbius ⭕ • • •@sashin One possibility which comes to mind: there are tools (e.g., ytdl, formerly youtube-dl), which can fetch media (both video and audio) from numerous sources and platforms.
Invidious presently searches for and returns content only from YouTube. It would be interesting if it would support multiple back-ends: YouTube, Peertube, and Vimeo come to mind, as well as podcasts generally.
One of the key challenges for audiences is in finding, discovering, and accessing content. DuckDuckGo currently offers a video search capability with the option of playing video directly from DDG itself. That's ... getting some portion of the way there.
@anildash has noted that "Wherever you get your podcasts" is a radical idea. I'd like to see that extended to video as well. Hell, I'd like to see it extended to Web content generally.
https://www.anildash.com//2024/02/06/wherever-you-get-podcasts/
See also #SocialHome as a similar concept in the social space:
https://socialhome.network/
@Shufei @freakazoid @yogthos @guigsy
#WhereverYouGetPodcasts #Podcasts #Federation #YouTube #FuckGoogle
Socialhome HQ - Socialhome
SocialhomeAdrian Cochrane
in reply to Doc Edward Morbius ⭕ • • •@dredmorbius Should we have video-podcast apps? No change to standards required!
@sashin @anildash @Shufei @freakazoid @yogthos @guigsy
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Doc Edward Morbius ⭕
in reply to Adrian Cochrane • • •@alcinnz FYI, there are already podcast apps which will play videos (I actually am strongly annoyed by this as in virtually all cases I don't want video with my audio), the FOSS app AntennaPod being amongst those.
And you can get RSS feeds from YouTube, at least for now, by channel:
https://danielmiessler.com/p/rss-feed-youtube-channel/
I subscribe to at least one podcast which is principally served via YouTube, and I'm often amused when I hear references to what's on my (non-existant) screen.
@sashin @anildash @Shufei @freakazoid @yogthos @guigsy
Sashin
in reply to Adrian Cochrane • • •Doc Edward Morbius ⭕
in reply to Sashin • • •@sashin Already is AFAIU:
https://danielmiessler.com/p/rss-feed-youtube-channel/
@alcinnz @anildash @Shufei @freakazoid @yogthos @guigsy
Sashin
in reply to Doc Edward Morbius ⭕ • • •@dredmorbius @alcinnz @anildash @Shufei @freakazoid @guigsy That's not quite what I meant, hmm...
actually..
What *is* a podcast anyway?
Why are they available on all platforms?
Is a podcast just an RSS feed of audio files or are they something else?
What would it take to get "wherever you get your vidcasts" a thing just like podcasts...
Doc Edward Morbius ⭕
in reply to Sashin • • •@sashin Yes, a series of audio/media downloads to which one may subscribe via RSS.
This makes some nonintuitive platforms (e.g., YouTube channels) effectively podcasts.
(Though I don't subscribe to any presently in that format. I ... may change this, thinking about it consciously. I'd be much more enthusiastic if I could specify audio only.)
@alcinnz @anildash @Shufei @freakazoid @yogthos @guigsy
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in reply to Dave Mc • • •JimmyChezPants
in reply to Strongthany🇺🇦 • • •@strongthany @guigsy
The game right now among all capitalists is to keep us exhausted and make it look like the goalposts are ever-receding memories of a false consciousness that we're not sure ever actually existed.
Just keep yourself prepared for the day that they cannot maintain the delusion any longer. They are each individually too narcissistic and lacking Theory Of Mind to understand the tension they are building and how it will come back at them.
Drop money in buskers' hats.
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JimmyChezPants
in reply to JimmyChezPants • • •@strongthany @guigsy
If you attend shows, attend shows at bars that hire bands and have a reputation for paying their bands and staff.
Solidarity is the only thing that every one of us can choose to exercise, if we want it.
I got notification this week that the extra storage I'm paying for on Google renews in a month, and I'm cancelling that.
I stood up a Nextcloud not too long ago. I'll be sharing it with friends who want it. I can do that.
Strongthany🇺🇦
in reply to JimmyChezPants • • •https://racketmn.com/first-avenue-minneapolis-union
First Avenue to Voluntarily Recognize Unionizing Workforce! - Racket
racketmn.comJimmyChezPants
in reply to JimmyChezPants • • •@strongthany @guigsy
Send bands you like twenty dollars in a letter. Use postal service money orders for that matter. Order swag maybe.
Send more if you plan to torrent their albums, which they almost certainly don't see as the biggest problem they have right now.
AccordionBruce
in reply to Dave Mc • • •@guigsy @strongthany
The @bandcampunited Union never suggested people should stop using Bandcamp to support artists
Today is #BandcampFriday when around 90% of the proceeds from purchases go directly to artists — which is way better than any other platform
And that means, regardless of the corporate policies, you’re not giving that much to the corporation
It sucks that #Bandcamp has gone through shitty buyouts
But it’s probably one of the better ways to support artists right now
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in reply to Yogthos • • •Old Google: "Do no evil."
New Google: "Dude, you totally gotta snort some of this evil."
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in reply to Yogthos • • •Ollie, sweet spring child
in reply to Yogthos • • •Terfs have no friends - Arthur Morgan, 1899
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in reply to o Viri [no alt text, no boost] • • •Terfs have no friends - Arthur Morgan, 1899
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in reply to Yogthos • • •Timothy Wolodzko
in reply to Yogthos • • •Stegosaur
in reply to Yogthos • • •This is why my tack has been anti-outsourcing in general.
Google gets to hide behind “BuT tHeY wErE cOnTrAcToRs” without consequence, because they know they can easily find a new contractor that’ll charge an even lower rate and solve the immediate problem.
The reality is that contracting is toxic, pure and simple. Contractors (the staffing firms) have no vested interest in the long term success of the company retaining them, or their own armada of temps: it’s all about getting the contract done while extracting as many hours of work as possible (if not fixed-rate/capped) or finishing it as quickly as possible to move on to the next one (if fixed-rate/capped).
Likewise, companies retaining contractors or outsourcing abroad are sending an unambiguous signal: immediate profit now, fuck whatever comes next. They’re admitting they have no desire to build a sustainable or profitable enterprise, and nobody should work for them expecting growth or success.
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in reply to Yogthos • • •That just happened yesterday. It seems per this article that Google employed the team through a staffing firm, practice that allows big companies to quickly change the rules, get rid of a team, etc. and then say “oh, we just ended the contract”
I know people who work in that space. Their employment future is always up in the air even if they moved to another location for that job.
https://www.austinmonitor.com/stories/2024/03/as-council-prepped-public-support-local-google-workers-learned-of-layoffs/
As Council prepped public support, local Google workers learned of layoffs - Austin Monitor
Chad Swiatecki (Austin Monitor)Tengrain (🇺🇦)
in reply to Yogthos • • •And so much for, “Don’t be evil.”
#Google
Brahn
in reply to Yogthos • • •JustAFrog
in reply to Yogthos • • •This sort of thing is why I simply don't care what happens to big corps.
They don't care about anyone, so right back at ya.
Tyler Stone :ca1:
in reply to Yogthos • • •Prof Prachi Srivastava
in reply to Yogthos • • •@ErickaSimone FYI.
@yogthos @_L1vY_
Ericka Simone
in reply to Prof Prachi Srivastava • • •Brian
in reply to Ericka Simone • • •Youtube Music workers get fired while asking Austin City Council for Google negotiation resolution
YouTubearea51.👽/
in reply to Yogthos • • •Ericka Simone
in reply to Yogthos • • •Hi. I’m Ericka. I’m reaching because frankly, this shit is horrible. Also, I want to know if you know about UMAW, a growing union of workers in all music spaces.
Please let me know what I can do to help.
Yogthos
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in reply to Yogthos • • •Stephen J. 🏳️🌈🇮🇪🇺🇸🇬🇧🇪🇺
in reply to Yogthos • • •Alan Campbell, Слава Україні!
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in reply to Yogthos • • •@downey
Google has traveled all the way from "don't be evil" to residing in and acting from the 9th level of hell's heart.
Stunning to have witnessed this transition in it's entirety.
Cheradenine Zakalwe
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in reply to Yogthos • • •Yogthos
in reply to Tuxicoman • • •@tuxicoman here https://toot.monster/@brain/112022489591716617
Brian
2024-03-01 21:12:18
Googly Eyed Peas
in reply to Yogthos • • •Blake Leonard
in reply to Yogthos • • •Cheradenine Zakalwe
in reply to Blake Leonard • • •yes, it's me, liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦
in reply to Yogthos • • •🗣 AND THIS IS THE PRECISE MOMENT THE FASCIST #TECHBRO MAFIA DECIDED TO HYPE AI AND LAYOFF WORKERS FOR QUARTERLY PROFITS
more than a half-million IT workers were laid-off the past 2 years alone; but this process started with Google in 2019 after your attempts to unionize.
i noticed and have been calling out the trend as an expert on the intersections of tech & politics.
#techbros are now burning the internet to the ground with AI just because y'all dared to unionize.
@yogthos
myrmepropagandist
in reply to Yogthos • • •🇨🇦 OhOkKay
in reply to Yogthos • • •Bastards. Greedy f*ckin' bastards.
Mike_V
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in reply to RealJournalism • • •Supportive Tree-based lifeform
in reply to Yogthos • • •Alexander Hay
in reply to Yogthos • • •Arjen P. de Vries Timmers 🕊️
in reply to Yogthos • • •the "feature" of subcontracting. Thanks for sharing.
More background:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240302041525/https://www.kxan.com/news/youtube-music-workers-laid-off-after-cognizant-contract-ends/
(The direct link won't open in Europe but #internetarchive to the rescue.)
YouTube Music workers laid off after Cognizant contract ends
Cora Neas (KXAN Austin)Cloud68.co 👩💻👨💻
in reply to Yogthos • • •Ricardo Martín
in reply to Yogthos • • •I was surprised that nobody mentioned jamendo.com in the thread. Maybe it could be of interest to someone 🤔
https://www.jamendo.com
Jamendo Music | Free music downloads
Jamendo MusicGoerp
in reply to Yogthos • • •Leon Bambrick
in reply to Yogthos • • •שי ברגר :python: Shai Berger
in reply to Yogthos • • •Christian Quest 🌍
in reply to Yogthos • • •informal motto of Google
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Tristan Nitot✓
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in reply to Yogthos • • •Kari'boka
in reply to Yogthos • • •Yogthos
in reply to Kari'boka • • •:neofox_boop_blep: object 6058aa27-6ced-4d77-952a-bf55d59351c2
in reply to Yogthos • • •holy shit
what scares me is when people don't even know they've been layed off
abbie abbie abbie
in reply to Yogthos • • •Sam Wronski
in reply to Yogthos • • •Human 3500
in reply to Yogthos • • •As if Youtube music was not bad enough already.
I found the free tier so annoying with all the "just pay us and you can listen without these all these interruptions" that I would not ever pay for it - it was like a shakedown / mob protection money.
And why hasn't AI been put to work on volume levelling?
🚂 Bahner
in reply to Yogthos • • •Dies sollte eine landesweite Geschichte in den #USA sein. Nachdem dieses Team einstimmig eine #Gewerkschaft gegründet hatte, weigerte sich #Google, an den Verhandlungstisch zu kommen.
Dem #Stadtrat wurde eine Resolution zur Unterstützung der Beschäftigten vorgelegt. An dem Tag, an dem die Beschäftigten zur Anhörung über die Resolution erschienen, #entließ Google das gesamte Team.
DasVideo zeigt genau den Zeitpunkt, an dem die Mitarbeiter von YouTube - 1/2
BierEngineer
in reply to Yogthos • • •zed
in reply to Yogthos • • •> This should be a viral national story
Nobody gives a shit, fuck Google employees.
rubia
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