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Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
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There's a 5th response. I call it Commons Capitalism. It's capitalism where the means of production and net profits are used for the benefit of workers, not the wealthy, and stop the accumulation of the means of production in the wealthy.
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Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
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Absolutely not. There is no state ownership. The means of production are owned by nonprofit corporations who hold the property in commons to give wages and benefits to workers. There are no shareholders or stakeholders. That's called Commons Capitalism.
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Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
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There isn't anything to look up. It's a new concept that I'm researching. It uses capitalism to achieve what socialism intended to achieve. I know it's a viable solution and can outperform traditional capitalism. The more I research this, the more I wowed by it.
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anubis2814
anubis2814
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@Jonathan D. Cope, Esq. So who runs these non-profit corporations. The government? Are they democratically elected by the workers? The citizens? Do the different non-profits control different industries or are there competitors in each industry?
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Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
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Each nonprofit corporation is run by a board of directors. The nonprofit has no members. The board is not concerned with equality, democracy, or egalitarianism. It's strictly to pay top salaries and Nordic-style benfits to workers, buy up businesses and create new nonprofits that will do the same. It can do that because their are no shareholders. Workers do have some involvement on the board and how management is performed but democracy is not part of it.
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anubis2814
anubis2814
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@Jonathan D. Cope, Esq. What drives them to do these things? Ive been at non profits and the board mostly used it as a way to pay themselves more. Im failing to see how this would function with no democratic oversight
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Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
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This is nonprofit only in structure. It's strictly in the business of paying salary and benefits for workers. There is oversight by the workers up and down the lines of management, including the directors, who have working positions. The workers are heavily involved with control of management pay and alienation of property.
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Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
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Coops are tied to ownership of property and the typical coop is run by small owners as shareholders of the coop. It doesn't help the employees of the shareholder owner of the cooperative.
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Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
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I might add that coops are traditional corporate entities that have the same ownership problems, such seeking the highest profit. A person going to work for a coop is subject to the same relationship as the employee of a traditional cooperation.
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anubis2814
anubis2814
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@Jonathan D. Cope, Esq. There are different forms of co-ops. Worker owned co-ops, member owned co-ops and a mixed version depending on the system. There is also democracy among most of the people. Your system does appear to have advantages over others in certain areas such as natural monopolies if done the right way. The US post office being a good example of a "commons" that has no profit motive, no stake holders and good benefits for workers. However there are still lots of issues with how much government interference can occur to knee cap it, and workers these days are not feeling all the good things they used to.
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Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.
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You're right, there are lots of different types of worker coops. But at most they hire 8-10,000 people which is a paltry sum. I look at worker coops basically as a default mechanism to commons capital entities which I am advocating. I haven't looked at the postal service but, it is severely resticted because of government and politics. I'm developing a system that can ultimately employ millions of people.
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anubis2814
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BTW globalist princess is blocked because they are a racist fascist.
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Globalist Russophobe
Globalist Russophobe
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@anubis2814 btw I don't give a fuck lol. I alsways can use another account :)
Fascism is collectivist leftist ideology, racists are propenets of racial theory... I'm rather liberal suprematist and Progressive Right.
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