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Ah fantastic, so our French Constitutional Council just confirmed we’re not a democracy, since it seems that using every article that limits democratic debates, removes modifications to laws, and generally prevents any kind of discussion around a law, and any form of real vote, all at the same time is totally legal and constitutional.

Maybe it’s time to move on from our current form of Republic. It was created for a military dictator in the 50s, and is clearly unsuited to the modern world.

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Maxi 8x 💉
Maxi 8x 💉
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Maybe? 🙃 The presidential republic model is a failure in all its global implementations.
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Woozle Hypertwin
Woozle Hypertwin
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@frumble
Available for building new forms of government. I've got some preliminary design docs for the underlying software; needs work. I should probably try to write up some docs on how this would actually function on a social real-world level, and also include some new pieces about federation.
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Skyglobe
Skyglobe
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strange you Say this: Silvio Berlusconi is a great fan of the French Presidentialism. /s
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Rusty Corgi
Rusty Corgi
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*side eyes our 250+ year old government made by slave owners*

Yeeahhh, take it from an American, don't let shitty governments linger.
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anubis2814
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@Rusty Corgi @Nick @ The Linux Experiment The french government is the only nation that resembles the US government. We've figured out better forms of democracy since then.
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Rusty Corgi
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@anubis2814 There'd been better forms of government in the 1950s but Charles De Gaulle decided to copy our homework that we already got an F on.
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Andrij Nitrogenesis
Andrij Nitrogenesis
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well, french ppl are known for doing revolution instead of their morning coffee, so...
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strwbrryJen
strwbrryJen
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dunno where ya stand politically but please keep protesting and uh push it over the edge. me and my commie comrades are rooting for the french working class to push as hard as possible
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Pfannkuchen :ablobabducted:
Pfannkuchen :ablobabducted:
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bruh can't you understand 62 years isn't viable
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Pierric
Pierric
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@pfannkuchen that is not the point. The point is the violation of democratic principles through the abuse of legalistic clauses, in the face of the will of 80+ percent of the population. Nick is right: we need a republic in which the government represents the people, not the elite.

Beyond that point though: 62 is viable. There is no actual emergency to finance pensions, now or in the mid term future. And if there was, there is money to find.
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Nick @ The Linux Experiment
Nick @ The Linux Experiment
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@PierricD @pfannkuchen Yep. It is absolutely viable. Most models point out to that. There is no urgency at all.
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Simon
Simon
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you french are just looking for an excuse to go to the streets again, aren't you 😂
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Nick @ The Linux Experiment
Nick @ The Linux Experiment
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@realsimon Well, as long as our governments keeps giving us some, we’ll keep protesting 😂
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Simon
Simon
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as a german I can't understand. We complain all the time but do nothing because we're afraid of change. That is our way.
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Dadoum
Dadoum
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@realsimon I am not aware of political climate in Germany, but in France Macron is really a bastard. For example, Macron decided to enact his law at 4:00 AM today. That's not something that a president should do.
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Ben Haube 🏳️‍🌈 :tux: :android:
Ben Haube 🏳️‍🌈 :tux: :android:
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We are busy fighting for democracy here in the US too. It's sad seeing the whole world leaning towards right-wing authoritarianism.
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girgunta
girgunta
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at least your own country knows what's up not like here in Hungary where the people are brainwashed by the government propaganda and thinking we are a democracy when we are actually an electoral autocracy.
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Nick @ The Linux Experiment
Nick @ The Linux Experiment
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@girgunta True, at least the people here are very unhappy. I’m afraid it won’t be enough though :/
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Nick @ The Linux Experiment
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@merthyr1831 He definitely has in my eyes, but I’m afraid people will let things slide, and slowly accept everything that’s happening.
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LGDLL
LGDLL
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Charles de Gaulle un dictateur…
Mouai...
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Nick @ The Linux Experiment
Nick @ The Linux Experiment
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@GDLL Régime autoritaire aurait été plus juste. Il a quand même salement amoché les pouvoirs parlementaires pour les condenser dans l’exécutif. Sans doute nécessaire à l’époque, mais clairement plus aujourd’hui.
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LGDLL
LGDLL
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Vous pensez avoir plus de libertés aujourd'hui que sous De Gaulle ?

Vous pensez que le pouvoir était plus autoritaire sous De Gaulle que sous Macron ?

De Gaulle a perdu son referendum, il s'est cassé…immédiatement (enfin le lendemain à 12h)
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Nick @ The Linux Experiment
Nick @ The Linux Experiment
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@GDLL Non, justement, c’est tout l’objet: le régime avait lieu d’être à l’époque, mais n’est plus adapté aujourd’hui. Macron utilise ces pouvoirs sans raison ou discernement et le peuple n’est pas entendu.

On est toujours dans le même régime autoritaire.
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LGDLL
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L'organisation du pouvoir n'est pas plus autoritaire, ce sont les hommes qui le composent qui l'ont détourné.
De Gaulle le disait clairement s'il n'avait pas le soutien du peuple, il se casse.
Le problème tient plus aux hommes/femmes politiques sans honneur et sans envergure de notre époque.
Sans parler des parasites de la haute fonction publique.
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Nick @ The Linux Experiment
Nick @ The Linux Experiment
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@GDLL Oui c’est exactement ce que je dis :) Le régime est resté potentiellement autoritaire, car il a été créé sur mesure pour un seul homme et na pas subi de substantielle modification pour le rendre plus démocratique. Il est juste de plus en plus détourné par des gens de moins en moins scrupuleux.
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LGDLL
LGDLL
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Pas tout à fait.
On ne peut pas dire cela de Pompidou, Giscard et même Mitterrand (et cela me fait mal de l'écrire)
Mais de là à faire passer «Mon Général» pour un dictateur…
Enfin, «les gens» ont demandé «plus d'État» depuis longtemps. Plus de services poublics etc…Qu'il s'occupe de tout, le résultat…est là.
L' État doit être autoritaire dans son domaine (le régalien) et pour le reste laisser la société s'organiser comme bon lui semble. Mais c'est libéral.
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Stortkanda
Stortkanda
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je te dirai bien viens en Belgique mais ce n'est pas beaucoup mieux 😅
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Nick @ The Linux Experiment
Nick @ The Linux Experiment
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@eickot I’m not saying we have the worst regime, I’m saying we are sliding pretty fast into authoritarian territory. Obviously some other countries have it worse, and some are better!
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Nick @ The Linux Experiment
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@eickot The issue here is that even stopping the country doesn’t seem to work anymore. The government just sends the police to beat down random people, guilty or innocent, and waits it out. It doesn’t have the impact is used to, even with millions in the streets…
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