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in reply to Bastian Allgeier

I'm just listening to The Rest Is History podcast series on the Nazis, and it is very clear that it could happen again, and it could happen here.

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in reply to Ben Curthoys

The second, most recent, part starts here:

[The Rest Is History] 404. The Nazis in Power: The Night of the Long Knives #theRestIsHistory
https://podcastaddict.com/the-rest-is-history/episode/169115618

in reply to Ben Curthoys

The earlier series on Hitler's rise to power starts here:

[The Rest Is History] 295: The Rise of the Nazis #theRestIsHistory
https://podcastaddict.com/the-rest-is-history/episode/163257061

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

@kithrup thank you for taking the time to put this top paper, and the risk to share it on a public forum
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

@fuzztech This is an amazing post, and so badly needed right now. Thank you for sharing it.

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in reply to Bastian Allgeier

powerful story that took courage and, assuredly, a lot of emotion/inner struggle to write. I thank you for having the courage.
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in reply to Bastian Allgeier

@halfbyte thank you so much for sharing. I grew up in Chile in the 90s, we had a dictator in the 70s. When I was 12 I learned that my best friend (and his family) were a supporters of him, my friend told me anyone who commits a crime should be killed immediately, and that’s the only way to be safe. I’ll never forget that moment, before I thought we shared the same values, could never see him again the same way.

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in reply to Bastian Allgeier

@hankg

«My grandpa taught me that Nazis are fantastic storytellers. The new Nazis are on Tiktok and elsewhere on social media, telling great stories. Stories of safety, of simplicity, of order and justice. Stories of lives without crises. Adventure stories.»

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

This is a brilliant, brave piece of writing. Thank you for posting it.

I've also recently been thinking a lot about my German grandparents. Their story is very different from your grandpa's (they were Jewish refugees from the Nazis, and very lucky to escape in the 30s) but learning about their lives led me to the same conclusions as you, and, also like you, to an anti-fascism I feel in my bones.

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in reply to Bastian Allgeier

This is well written and very important. Not only for Germany, but America too.

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in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you for writing this. I've had the unforunate chance to experience something like that in my family and it's so hard to describe to people how messed up it is.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

“My grandpa taught me that Nazis are fantastic storytellers. The new Nazis are on Tiktok and elsewhere on social media, telling great stories.”

I think the economy and clarity of conservative storytelling contributes enormously to cultivating conservatives. Conservatives think linearly. Their stories pit good guys against bad guys without the clutter and confusion of nuance. Thus Fox News. Thus Bill O’Reilly histories. Thus the Redemption. The list goes on.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Wow. I'm so glad you had the courage to write that. And to share it. Thank you!
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

thank you for sharing this. I hope you decide to leave this up. I have a similar story as my grandfather was Waffen SS in Poland. When my kids said it can’t happen here I would tell them of seeing Star Wars, watching Star Trek and eating ice cream sandwiches with him as a kid. If he ever found out that my parents adopted a Jewish kid (me) he never let that stop him from complaining about the Jews ruining everything in front of me as I got older. It was painful to reconcile this.
It can happen. It is happening. It cannot continue.

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in reply to Bastian Allgeier

seems rather harsh judging him as a young boy, who brain had not fully developed. He was still a child at 16. My grand dad was in the kkk, and he moved on from it in age and became a work member of society. Who wasn't racist
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in reply to Bastian Allgeier

thank you for sharing.

I'm not from Germany nor living there (yet), though the place I'm visiting this weekend has a protest organized against the AFD (whose local department thought it would be wise to take office directly next door to a Youth Pride space). I'm not sure about the details of the protest yet, but I'm considering going to it.

The current political situation is scary, and I hope your post inspires people to at the very least not vote "strategically" anymore.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thanks for writing this, as well as for your talk at border:none, it was nice to talk to you there!

So many things sound familiar, so-so many. Only not in an “in the past” way, but “in the present”.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you for writing and posting this. You nailed it:

“Our collective mistake is to underestimate the mechanisms behind all that. Even with our history. We can only keep the Nazis in check as long as they don't find step stones to get back to power.”

We all need hope and we must keep fighting the good fight against hate & violence.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you for your courage in writing this. It is extremely timely as one can see similarities occurring all over the world. So many watch it happening again but sit back and think there’s nothing we can do about it, but there is - VOTE! Encourage those who are complacent to vote. Vote out the enablers and those who for selfish reasons want to stay in power. We have the power to do it but must have the will. I admire your bravery, Bastian.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Here's a story I have wanted to share for a long time, but never got around to. For some reason your post (which is amazing, and I hope you decide to keep it up) prompted me to write it down: https://imgur.com/a/vJ0JnYa
in reply to 🇳🇱 Jeroen 🇺🇦 🇺🇦

@jeroen94704 My grandparents told stories like this, about soldiers warning them for razzia's and bringing them home after dark, in sperrzeit. My grandfather even owed his life to a Wehrmacht soldier. He got him out of prison. Soon after the other prisoners were executed by the Germans as retaliation for resistance actions.

I do think Wehrmacht soldiers, who were often not fighting by choice, were (generally speaking) different than SS men who mostly applied for that position.

in reply to Gepke

@geppiegep Weird thought that you would not be here if it weren’t for the actions of some unknown soldier, no? My grandfather (who was ~10 at the time) was arrested along with his brother at some point towards the end of the war. After a few hours they were hustled into a blinded car and driven off to a remote spot in the woods. After some quiet conversation one of the soldiers came to them and told them to go home. Not hard to connect the dots.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Excellent article. Some of my ancestors are German but they moved over here in 1887 because my great-great-grandfather was pretty good at seeing what was coming.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

thank you very much for such a personal text!
My granddads were not in the party nor the army, but they had their lives back then, too. And the family had its stories …
So again, thanks for sharing!
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

"You cannot argue with someone who's living in a different universe. It took a long time for me to understand that."

I've recently realized this about my zionist relatives cheering on genocide right now.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

“We can only keep the Nazis in check as long as they don't find step stones to get back to power. Once the pendulum swings too far in their direction it's going to be over and it's currently not looking good.”

Thank you for this brave and apt call to action.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

thank you for sharing this. i want everyone I know to read it. thank you.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

"The young, wild boy in the 1920s has all my empathy. The man, that my grandpa turned into, does not deserve any of that."

Thank you for your words and your clear voice.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

My father grew up under the Nazis and was in the Hitler Youth. My uncle once defended Hitler to me ("Hitler did some good things) when I was 16 and visiting Cologne, my birth city. I'd grown up in America and couldn't believe someone was saying good things about Hitler. My father told me later that my uncle "had worked for the Nazis." That means my gentle, kind uncle had been a Nazi. My father was too young to really understand about the Nazis, but my uncle was much older and knew full well what he was doing as did his wife, my aunt.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

thank you for writing it. This is extremely important right now.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

This is remarkably beautiful and thoughtful. Thank you very much for sharing it.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Brave and clear. I’m glad you wrote that, and I’m glad I read it.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

It took me some time to read it truly. Thank you for sharing.

I grew up in germany but I am the first generation.

I never had this kind of confrontation in my family.

I believe it to be very important to share and remember. And to never forget.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

same for me. Just that there were no heroic stories at all, just 10 years of not mentioning
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

I hope that there will be never a time that you will need to take down that post.
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in reply to Bastian Allgeier

This stands out for me:
"He once told me how you did not need to fear anything back then. If someone committed a serious crime, they would be executed, so nobody would dare to."

I wonder how he reconciled the fact that, for some, the "serious crime" was just existing.

Thanks for posting. It does enlighten me about a few things that never made sense to me.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

thank you for sharing.

I can't imagine being a young child and brought up to believe Nazism is good and proper. If you learn it from childhood, it must also be extremely hard to change, too. I'm sorry you had such a person in your life but I'm also glad his influence actually had the opposite effect on you in the end.

Never again.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

What a great, personal, empathic piece of writing, thank you for this. As an Austrian I can really relate, and I know many with similar stories. Yet the fascists are gaining power everywhere you look. Sad to see how short the collective memory is.
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in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you for sharing this 🙏

We visit family in Germany a couple of times a year, and while I’ve never heard any views or stories of this kind, there is always some freshly removed graffiti of swastikas and such

Right wing views are on the rise in the western world, it’s pretty scary to think where we might be in another few years
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thanks for writing and publishing (!) this, Bastian. 🖤✊
in reply to Matthias Ott

I can relate so much. My grandfather’s brother was in the Waffen-SS and died in WW II. My grandpa made it back home from the Russian front after losing his toes, but he died when I was two. I still don’t think he was a Nazi himself and my grandmother always told the story that when my grandfather once returned home for a short visit from the military, he said: “War is an injustice.”
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in reply to Matthias Ott

Still, realizing that members of your family you love and look up to were either complicit or indifferent was eye-opening for me as a teenager. I also realized that the stuff from the history books that seemed so distant (and in b&w photos) actually happened just yesterday. And once you see the butcher’s hooks in Buchenwald yourself, all of this hits you hard. This is what people do to other people if nobody speaks up.

Just like you, I’m an anti-fascist for the rest of my life.

in reply to Matthias Ott

@matthiasott My great-grandfather kept a journal from 1944-1946 . It was written in "Kurrentschrift" so it was hard to decipher. A couple of years ago we sat down with my grandma and recorded her reading it - I later transcribed it.

He wrote about life in the last days of the war and the years after. Feels a lot more personal than the history books as it's set in my hometown. Tanks rolling down the streets I grew up in.

In one entry, he crossed out the name of the holiday:

in reply to Max Böck

@mxbck Amazing. And fantastic you took the time to record it with your grandmother and transcribe it! 👏
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you. Please don't delete it. One of the things that stood out for me:

"He once told me how you did not need to fear anything back then. If someone committed a serious crime, they would be executed, so nobody would dare to."

They promise: "All problems can be solved if we just dare to use enough violence. Crime exists because we are too soft." Who judges right and wrong based on what? Injustice doesn't exist because we are not cruel and brutal enough with each other.

in reply to Oliver Reichenstein

Mine was not a Nazi, he was just a little wannabe fascist. He believed that foreigners should "all be kicked out" and that if there's any problem—use violence. "They'll quickly stop if you just..." All that while being a Swiss citizen in Italy, naturalized, married to a former Italian immigrant then pampered by a Rumanian care taker. Hard worker? He retired at 50 living illegally on two state pensions. Former truck driver, fries & TV all day, voted Berlusconi in every election.
in reply to Oliver Reichenstein

@Oliver Reichenstein That sort of thing has to make one wonder how many non-criminals were also executed, after false accusations and/or shoddy police work. It's amazing that people have happy thoughts about living in that sort of world.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

amazing, fascinating read. Totally agree. My grandfather navigated a plane that dropped bombs on Nazis. What a weird time in history, huh. And we both turned out antifascists. Kudos to you, man. For writing this and for choosing the right side of history.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

"Then there are the opportunists. Those who think that they can keep the monsters in check. They think they can abuse them as vehicles to stay in power or get in power. They are the worst of all those groups."

This is why it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up when people claiming to fight them, buy them campaign ads....

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Danke für den Text. Mein Opa ist kurz nach meiner Geburt gestorben, er hatte einen ähnlichen Werdegang und Überzeugungen. Ich hab schon oft überlegt, wie ich mich wohl mit ihm verstanden hätte.

Packen wir’s an.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

My grandfather was an alcoholic, and abusive as a parent. My father-in-law is a narcissist and also abusive (but my oldest son of 8 currently loves him). I’m not anywhere close to claiming these are the same, but… I can sort of understand how it might feel to grow up and learn what kind of person your grandpa is. I’m sorry for how much it must have hurt.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thanks! Especially for the mustering the strength to writing and publishing it! Bonnhoeffers Theory of Stupidity is coming up a lot lately when reading stories like yours.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you for telling your story, it's one the world needs to hear.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

I appreciate this article, which is written with great sense and sensitivity. I hope you will keep it posted. Every part of it is important.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

felt cute and wrote about pop being a nazi, might take it down idk
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Please leave the article up. I would like to share it with my family and urge them to share it with others. It is extremely rare for those of us who are not German to understand the personal family aspects of the #Nazi era. You have given us a lot to think about. Thank you for sharing.
#Nazi
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you for this post. I have also a challenge to cope with a nazi in my family. Unlike your grandfather he is a delusional man with no influence whatsoever and had no nazi past obviously, but every time he starts to talk to me it hurts me deeply.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

"those who admire the monsters" is incredible, thank you for writing this
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you for writing this. I had such a grandfather and also a grandmother (his wife), who was forever proud of the fact that she was the leader of the local BDM chapter. They met at a Nazi Rally in Munich. Neither of them ever let go of their fascist mindset and it taught me a lot about how fascists are made. They would both be proudly voting AfD. What’s happening in Germany right now scares me because I knew Nazis firsthand.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

great write up and an important insight that too often gets missed.
You need to get this out on all the sights, dead bird, tiktok, insta, YouTube shorts.
This may be the only way to get through to the apathetic and naïve.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

the worst part is how many ppl in many countries will relate to this
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

thank you for writing this, I admire your courage and share your concerns with regards to the shift to the right, along with populism here in the UK. It is very scary to see how, for some, the lessons of the past have been sanitised to the extent that it has lost all horror. As we learnt with the Brexit nonsense, there is a vein of far right thought in some that just needs the right person to tap into - waiting for them to agree with the unsaid.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

I toured Dachau one morning, and then the BMW museum/showplace that afternoon. And suddenly realized that all these nice, fresh-faced ppl were the grandchildren of the ppl who ran the BMW slave labor satellite camp I had seen in photos that morning. But can't blame these thirty-somethings for what went before.
Thanks for this.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Important, well-written, and--unfortunately--timely, not just in your country but all over the world. Thank you for writing it, even though I wish (as I expect do you) there was no need.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

This is one of the most powerful personal pieces I've read in quite a while. Thank you for writing it, and thank you for posting it. I know it's a vulnerable thing.
in reply to jbhughes

@jbhughes @shekinahcancook @thepoliticalcat This is bloody scary. And when pointed inward, the re-evaluation of one's tastes and beliefs is astonishing.

Thank you for sharing.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you for sharing your story, & most importantly, for being a decent person. I had a small glimmer of this while stationed in Germany in the U.S. Army during the 1970s. The father-in-law of an Army friend was ex-SS & obviously proud of his service during WWII. During his reciting to me why the Nazis should have won, he snapped to attention with the "Seig Heil" salute, & I realized that the underlying sentiment was still very close to the surface 30 years after the war ended.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you for writing this.

You also stated exactly why it is no use to try and convert the hardcore Nazis. Only the group that falls for simple and easy reasons why their life is difficult where there is a pointed villain who is their problem which should be removed is who should be focused on.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

I appreciate you sharing this.

I think the world needs stories like this now more than ever.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

The original Robert Brandt was murdered at Terezin, I don't hate your people for what you did, as what MLK Jr said "I have decided on the path of love, as hate is too great a burden to bear." I won't forget ever though. Germany made the world an uglier place, no longer could we remain simple peasants dancing in our villages before the panzers rolled over us. We had to change. It began a long time before 1933.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Vielen Dank, dass du das aufgeschrieben und veröffentlicht hast.

Mit solidarischen Grüßen.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thanks for writing this, it's an important story to tell. I think you're absolutely right, and you have seen this from a direct personal view point. People need to understand. The right are gaining traction across the world, it's getting scary.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

that must have taken a lot of courage to write. Thank you for sharing this.
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in reply to Bastian Allgeier

I can't imagine any person of real integrity asking you to take down something so thoughtful.

@andrewducker
https://mastodon.scot thank you for https://mastodon.scot/@andrewducker/111787455463176904 tuning me in.

@nick thank you for https://norden.social/@nick/111784046892111722 it's so good to know that there is such strength of feeling. Equal thanks to @kim_harding for finding a report in a different language, https://mastodon.scot/@kim_harding/111784228719642509


Tens of thousands pack into a protest in Hamburg against Germany's far right
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/nazi-germany-ap-hamburg-berlin-cologne-b2481764.html?utm_source=press.coop
Tens of thousands gathered in Hamburg on Friday for a demonstration against the far right, and organisers said the protest was ended early because the mass of people led to safety concerns

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

so he never felt any regret about what he and his comrades have done? Everything was alright for him?
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you for writng this - it feels extremely necessary right now.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you.
My father was born in 1931. Moved to the US after the war. I recognize some of the things in him. He talked about his time in the Hitler Youth with pride. In the end he was a monster. I remember at three him trying to teach me how to be a 'proud' German. Thankfully it didn't stick.

Don't take this down. It was a hard, but good read.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you very much for publishing this insight into your very own family history, which touched me deeply. Unfortunately, it takes courage to publish something like this at this time. But I believe that it is a very important building block to preserve these experiences and memories of a completely foreign world of thought of one's own ancestors.

And unfortunately, there is currently a particular problem in Germany with many people (not only) from the current generation of politicians. They are too young to have memories of war, suffering and destruction themselves. Perhaps they have never undertaken their own reflections of this kind in relation to their own family history or have always remained in their own universe.

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in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you for writing this. Thank you for sharing how your Grandfather was seduced by the power - and for sharing how your relationship with him changed. Outside of Germany we don't hear enough of these histories.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

I could have written a very, very similar piece (experience-wise), and I'm deeply grateful that you did it on behalf of supposedly many of us. Don't take it down. As I said to @rodneyrehm and @asciidisco yesterday: I'm ashamed of not finding enough energy & capacity for standing up myself like this although there should be nothing more important at the moment. Again, thank you! 🙏
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in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you very much, Bastian, for your article. It certainly wasn’t easy to write (and publish) it, nor was easy to deal with your gradpa’s history personally. I myself come from the ‘opposite’ side — my grandpa, born in 1923, was part of the Czech minority here in Liberec (Reichenberg) and experienced the rise of hatred towards the local Czechs (and the hatred had to be mutual even then, of course). But the sad thing is that, just like in Germany, the popularity… (1/2)
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

…of right-wing populists is also growing here. I don’t condemn so much those who vote for them — but I do condemn those who are knowingly poisoning them with hateful propaganda. They should be stopped while there is still time. At least hopefully there still is.

By the way, after your article, I’m all the more glad we are using Kirby for our site. It just shows that new generations can always overcome the disputes of the previous ones. It gives hope. (2/2)

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thanks for writing and sharing!
I keep telling my friends in the UK that as a German it's very likely that my grandparents were either active supporters of the Nazis or at least bystanders and looking away. It's a hard truth.
I've never met my maternal grandparents and my paternal grandfather died when I was nine. Opportunities for even asking questions were rare.
You've done a brave thing!
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

thanks for sharing your experience, #NeverAgainIsNow I only understood much later that my grandfathers brother was a Nazi until his death, very scary times 😦 and the reporting #News far too much influenced by the right, either influenced or ownership in many countries
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thanks for writing this! I try to speak up whenever I can, but admit that for some in my wider family I have given up. I realise I mustn’t and will confront them again – these ideas must not linger around and grow into the terrible actions against we saw and see …
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

If ostensible people like Mr. Hocke started magically disappearing and showing up in ditche, unable to spread Neo-Nazism any more, and money was pumped into the ex-GDR regions, I don't think the problems would continue.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

incredibly good. Thank you
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in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you for sharing your story! I'm currently reading The Nazi Doctors (trying to better understand Medicine's utter failure in the face of the pandemic). It's very disheartening to see how much a lack of courage to speak up facilitated ever escalating atrocities and pretty soon (it seems to me) many felt trapped by their own complicity and continued to do nothing to resist.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

thank you for your story! I want my kids to grow up hearing the truths that hurt our world and would try to again.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

that's very powerful. Thanks for sharing. I've been very inspired by the protests across Germany today.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

The idea that strength power money and influence over other people were desirable goals is certainly despicable but it isn't definitive of Nazis. If that was your grandfather's only crime then he might as well have been a banker. But that's all we learn of his deeds. It's what your detachment was about. And where your anti-fascist feelings stem from — muddling them with a common personal conflict. You grew up and he wanted you to stay a kid. And that's why Nazis are bad?
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

thank you for writing that. We must never forget and never normalize.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

thank you for this. It gives me hope reading this, as we have the same thing going on in the Netherlands, where ~25% of the people voted for fascism, and we need these reflections more than ever.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

My father almost never spoke of what he did in the US Army during WWII. One day, I don’t know what triggered it, he started to tell me he was a guard in a prisoner of war camp. One of his duties was to be a driver for a German colonel at the camp. Several times he drove this officer to Washington DC for meetings with US Army officers. He was regular Wehrmacht, and not a Nazi.

In time I have come to think the point was there were good Germans, always.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

This absolutely needs to be said, and you are in the unfortunate position of being one of the best people to say it. Thank you.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

I’ve re-downloaded Instagram just to put a screenshot with a link in the stories, and deleted the app immediately after
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in reply to Bastian Allgeier

This helps show that these events were not that long ago. A good friend’s grandfather was sentenced at the Nuremberg trials for his role as a geneticist
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you for sharing. I hope you don’t take it down, because people need to hear your story. ❤️
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

A sad but powerful, tragic but empowering read!
Thank you for writing this and sharing it with the world.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you for this. i lived for two years in Bayern (Bavaria) in the mid 1980s in a small cow town (truly). I recognize the people you describe in the character of your grandfather, and we have them in the US, too. I also met a lot of Germans who were focused on making sure that fascism does not happen again. They were amazing people who had taken the lessons to heart and inspire me today. I know that it takes some courage for you to write this, and I am grateful. Best wishes to you, and to all of those who resist.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Danke Bastian. It's a well written story of how things got on a wrong track for our grandparents generation.

I fully agree that one has to prevent this from happening again in Germany especially, but elsewhere too.

Not everyone is born to be a hero either, but being aware of the threats helps and everyone can help to their own degree.

Let's not forget though, that people are human and as such prone to manipulation, your grandpa too.
He loved you as a kid at least.

in reply to Bastian Allgeier

a well written and i sightful artical thanks for sharing it.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

holy shit. Thanks for sharing. Jesus. Hard to write. Hard to read. Oof.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you, Sir. There are so many people whose ancestors experienced so much suffering in war. Many simply did not tell their descendants because of the cruelty. Let us remember that National Socialism was the cruelest time in history and must never be repeated. Never again is now!
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

That was so well said and so important. I appreciate you writing and sharing it. 🙏🏻
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you for that. We have this comforting national myth in the UK that we defeated Nazism in 1945 but now we elect governments that are heading in the same direction.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

Thank you.
"anti-fascist with all my heart for the rest of my life. I'm not wearing black on an antifa demo to beat up some Nazis. I mean the deep conviction that fascism must never – and I mean never – return to power."
This. So much this. It is my hope that there are a lot, lot more people of our generation who share this conviction and are now finally waking up and take action. 1/2
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

amazing. You manage to peel away the political veneer that is the current narrative surrounding far right movements and give us an insight into the dark sinister waters that lie beneath. Thanks for your bravery to share such a personal perspective - and beautifully written.
in reply to Bastian Allgeier

thank you for sharing this. I had the honour of explaining the current situation to a jewish colleague the other day. It's not fun. At all.
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Read every word of this. If the nazis can make a comeback in Germany, they can come to power anywhere. Cowardly people are drawn to them. And the world has a LOT of cowardly people. Whether they are afraid of someone who looks different or just of losing their position in society, they are all around you. Your kid's football coach. The idiot who works next to you. Your best friend from high school. They seem normal. They're not.
https://bastianallgeier.com/notes/grandpa
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Thank you for sharing this, Bastian. It's a powerful reminder of how little time has truly passed since then.

My adopted German "Omi" died in 1999. During the 10 years we knew her, she refused to speak of her husband, who had died in WWII. Somehow, my parents figured out he was in the SS. I've always wondered with unease what her true beliefs were. What she might have done. Or not done. What he did.

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I've posted before on here (and elsewhere), my grandfather was a Nazi as well.

After the war he became a cop so he could—in his words—still beat people up.

I do not miss him.

What I miss is basic respect for other human beings in our society.

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Thank you for being brave and sharing this. And thank you for writing it in English so even I can read it. Simple-solutions offerors are rising nearly everywhere, trying to divide and sort people. Let's not fall for that, let's keep speaking out!
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this is an incredible essay, thank you so much for sharing it.
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so powerful. Unfortunately, the people who most need to see this won't likely read it, in either your country or mine; and if they did, as you say they are living in a different reality, so they would never believe it. We have to out ote them, while we still can.
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this is incredible. Thank you for writing and posting this.
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Thankyou so much for sharing this. I totally get why it was hard to write and why you are nervous about it being available.

It is powerful for me because of how you describe a multilayered man and the complexity of actual humanness that gradually became visible to you as you grew up and came to your own values and perspective. A beautiful rendition - thankyou again.

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this is a fantastic article. One small thing: there's a typo in the first paragraph — it should say "He went to war *at* 16"
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I certainly don't know your grandpa's context. Yet, my grandpa was a communist and I believe they had similar environments when they grew up. An environment that was designed to constantly test them and further brainwash them into that system of terror. Those who failed the tests were isolated and punished, those who passed were constantly praised and promoted. 1/3
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thanks for this story.

In Ukraine we say "if you're wandering what will you do when nazis came, you're doing it now".

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Danke schön!

Diese Geschichte ist zu wichtig, um sie nicht zu teilen. Ist das für dich ok?

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Met a Freiburg Nazi in her 80s. She’d been a secretary for navy admiralty in Japan & a pow. She continued to believe that they’d been right.
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Wonderful story. I too worry about Germany’s attraction to fascism. Italy, Poland & Argentina have already forgotten their own history & voted for populist leaders who want to go back to tribalism. I hope humanity can get over this craziness. Good luck to you & other like-minded Germans. 💚🌎💚
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Thank you for sharing such a deeply personal experience. I’m sad it’s come to the point where you feel you needed to do it. I hope things will not continue in the wrong direction and that the combined efforts of people like you will make a difference.
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my grandfather was soviet hiking soldier & fight against the nazi until the 1945 under the Kenikdberg (East Prussia). He was shot in the head, but alive... After the war he work on plant as elevator electrician.
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Wow! This might be the most important post I read in the last months! Thank you for your open words. This inspired me to write about my own grandparents. Maybe with some other twist, but also a story that needs to be told. Or at least written down from my heart. Thak you again! 🖤
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Thank you.

In the US, 25-30% of Americans support Trump, a fascist. 🙁

There are four questions that predict an authoritarian mindset.

Which is more important for a child to have:
1. independence or respect for elders?
2. obedience or self-reliance?
3. to be considerate or to be well-behaved?
4. curiosity or good manners?

A perception of imminent physical threats increase authoritarian numbers. 🙁

https://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism

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I really respect that you've written this, written it so well, and have the courage to share it. Thank you!
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thank you so much for sharing this! All that you said is true and powerful, and I hope your country can keep the afd out of power!

I'll never forget the children's exhibit at Verzetsmuseum which told stories of 4 children and their families during the war. One of the girls had been in Hitler Youth and gone to summer camps. Her parents found ways to help Nazis in Amsterdam. And at the end of the exhibit, there were interviews with the 4 survivors from the stories we had followed

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I read it, I thank you from the bottom of my soul for having the strength, guts, and integrity to tell your truth! It means alot to those of us who actually care about the history that changed the world and now we are fighting to keep it more now than ever. Germany and the U.S have so many things in common. Along with other countries fighting the same fight at this time. Your history does not define who you are, as you know.
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Thanks for putting this out. Made me remember how admirers of «power, influence and money» are potential authoritarians we must monitor closely.
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That is an exceptional story. While you can’t forget someone you loved and looked up to, there are modern events that resonate with history.
Thank you for having the guts to share your story.
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My grandpa...

https://pixelfed.rzgierskopp.de/p/chris/629746035055497736

The Nazis destroyed countless lives in Europe, including those who had initially "voted" for the NSDAP because they had been promised something. After 1945, suddenly nobody could remember having voted for them - the majority were ashamed and regretted it! Today EVERYONE knows that!
It is unbelievable that there are people in Germany who fall for pied pipers again - but it is even more unbelievable that these cowardly pied pipers are back!

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That must've been a hard piece to write, but it is an important one.
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thanks so much for writing and sharing this. Took real courage. The lessons you are sharing from history apply well beyond Germany - we have our own exact same moment in the US right now, and we have to fight the reemergence of fascism here equally hard.
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Writing and publishing this piece must indeed not have been easy. Like many others living in the EU, I am starting to think our collective memory might be too short for our own good. Anyway, thank you so much for sharing.