Honestly, the Supreme Court justices today sounded even more deranged and clueless than I even expected. They are just too worried about hypothetical future presidents to focus on the fact that we have a former president indicted for attempting to overthrow an election who is now running for reelection on an explicitly authoritarian, anti-democracy platform. 1/ #LawFedi
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they're not overlooking a thing, they understand human psychology better than you do
Biden is not going to commit a crime to stop 45 from destroying democracy, you are asking too much of him
yes, in theory, he could end our long national nightmare in a moment if they ruled that POTUS could not be prosecuted for any crime but he won't do what people are thinking or even openly suggesting
decency is disadvantaged in a culture of corruption
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in reply to peachfront • • •But if they rule in protecting all actions of Trump, whatever Biden did post such ruling would NOT be illegal.
Joe
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they don't care, they don't have to care because they understand -- as you may not-- that Biden won't do these things
he won't arrest the bribe-taking SCOTUS judges, he won't arrest or Gitmo Trump, he has made every effort to stand aside & let law enforcement do its thing impartially as decency demands
he ain't gonna suddenly change because corrupt judges said being a corrupt POTUS is fine, jump on in & join the party
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That's the weird part. Not only would it be legal, you could argue it would be an obligatory part of his duty.
Like, he could detain members of that SC, install new ones, delete the second amendment, outlaw gerrymandering, write a new constitution, have new elections and resign.
That is upside down world.
Larry Smith
in reply to dingodog • • •I don't think the right wing SCJs are able to follow their thinking through.
Passenger
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Remember that a core part of conservative thinking is that the rules do not apply equally to everyone. We would call this hypocrisy, they would call it the whole point. You and I may believe that a just court must apply precedent equally but they do not, and they're the ones who get to decide.
Alberto Fujimori phrased this as "for my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law."
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in reply to Heidi Li Feldman • • •listening to the hearing today my prediction is a 7-2 or 8-1 ruling:
1) Trump (& all former Presidents) can be prosecuted right away for all "personal" actions (I think the special counsel called it "office seeking") - basically all election related stuff since the President has no role in that - to the extent they can be severed
2) He can be prosecuted for some official acts that aren't the sole discretion of the office after a review process in lower courts, prob with a test of some sort - so all meetings with other electeds, statements, orders to staff, etc
3) He can't be prosecuted for other official acts like appointments and lawful orders to military
4) Maybe some guidance/allowance for introducing actions from (3) as aggravating or establishing state of mind or motivation for (1) and (2)
I fully expect Thomas wants to go full Nixon (if the President does it it's not illegal). I think Alito wants to also but might not if Roberts leans on him.
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in reply to Heidi Li Feldman • • •Does someone have Biden's ear, or the ear of someone who has Biden's ear?
If Trump gets immunity, Biden MUST swallow his principles and use the newly granted powers to solve the twin issues of The Russian Asset and the corrupt SCOTUS justices that were appointed by a Russian Asset.
He MUST do that, immediately, or it's GAME OVER for Democracy in the US.
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Martha Lemert
in reply to Heidi Li Feldman • • •they are also signing the death warrants on the liberal justices if Trump or a similar MAGA takes the White House? After all, assasinating a Supreme Court justice would also be an official act, no? To create vacancies?
We need to amend the constitution to create a check on this unbalanced court. Where we the people get to vote on whether to retain them periodically.
Also, has anyone filed ethics complaints with bar associations where these justices are licensed?
Ande Jacobson
in reply to Heidi Li Feldman • • •@heidilifeldman: I am not a lawyer. I'm an engineer by education and by vocation (albeit a retired one at this point), so logical analysis is in my skill set. That the rogue SCOTUS majority seems to be willing to abandon the rule of law and the core principle that nobody, not even a sitting or former president, is above the law is terrifying. Without the rule of law, we'll have no democracy.
This also seems to be reinforcing the GOP's tactic of using investigations and prosecuting political enemies to smear the public's image of them no matter the cost to the country. If they are too afraid of the GOP to follow the rule of law in their reasoning, they have no business serving on the bench at any level let alone in the highest court in the land.
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in reply to Heidi Li Feldman • • •American law still sanctions slavery for convicts.
It's not difficult to hold that in contempt.
Moreover, that is just one of countless issues with American law presently.
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in reply to Heidi Li Feldman • • •I know that you’re getting a lot of feedback here so sorry for the noise.
It seems that bad faith action against an imperfect system (maintained imperfectly, though generally in good faith) being actionable against the imperfect system is a great lesson for future molders of that legal system.
We’re in everything everywhere expansion all at once, and to know that is not only advantage, but necessary.
The western post ww2 set in stone righteousness idea was always childish.
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in reply to Heidi Li Feldman • • •any of them can break free at any time. they're lifers, it's over. they can ultimately do what they want.
but it's also the reality that when this shit breaks, it will lead to some killings. no one wants to be on the front line rn
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#JoyceVance on #SCOTUS "debate" of #Trump #immunity
“a Court that has shown a propensity to abandon first principles, precedent, history, common sense, and the good of the American people when their political allegiances demand it.”
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in reply to Heidi Li Feldman • • •Exactly! What would that say about them?
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in reply to Heidi Li Feldman • • •This would be the culmination of all the work of the RW side of the court since 2000.
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in reply to Heidi Li Feldman • • •Incredibly disappointed that the liberal justices willingly participated in this farce.
Their very presence there lends normalcy and credibility to a hearing that should be seen as insane and corrupt.
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The #Project25 agenda and the #scotus 'what if we don't protect executive immunity - what will happen in the future' focus are #RussianFSB fka #Kgb engineered dynamics intended to force the US into a scenario where the establishment will have to abandon the peaceful transition of power if the #GOP win and thus destroy our most sacred civil tradition and topple us from moral leadership of the Free World.
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